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Old Apr 03, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34   #21
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My opinion of EotN:

Norn Arc is my favorite, I dislike the entire Asura Arc from beginning to end, the Vanguard Arc does nothing except make me hate Gwen even more. The entire thing felt rushed and could have been better; possibly more fair to people who enjoy the casual aspect of it.

Then again, I'm not sure what the phrase "casual gamer" means anymore.
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36   #22
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2% bonus + the XP from the L28 boss dying being split between only 2 group members

But, don't worry, I'm sure you know what you're talking about...
Oh, sorry, i live in lands of gaining morale boots, not in lands of removing dp.

Pay this place a visit, its worth it.

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On serious note: Challenge in Gw was never, "can i do it?" but "how efficiently can i do it?"

Anyone can do it. You remeber customer base for gw, casuall players, right? They know s*** about combat system, and anet can NOT disallow them from having fun. That, completing stuff. They went to extremes to make it happen.

So, untill you can do full HoS run in 20 minutes, you can shut up about GW lacking challenge.
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54   #23
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On serious note: Challenge in Gw was never, "can i do it?" but "how efficiently can i do it?"
qft. The whole point of GW isn't "I can do this and you can't," it's "I can do this faster than you."
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28   #24
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SHARDS OF ORR in the beginning it made alot of us noobs tell we figured out the gimicks to defeat it Many posts on it daily back then
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20   #25
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It sounds like the OP is bad at the game. I would never just rush through an area, letting my H/H get wiped, hoping I can find my way to the end. Make a good team and you should be able to just fight your way to the end with no problem for 95% of the game - most likely in less time than you would have your way (not counting solo builds).
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56   #26
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So....bad player gets wiped, repeatedly, by a not terribly hard area, and then manages to (almost) solo one boss with no offensive skills because he got stuck on a trap, is complaining about how gimmicky GW:EN is? How the f*** does this say anything at all about how gimmicky it is? It was just you being horrible, and then almost getting lucky before dying again.
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Old Apr 03, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #27
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there is really no challenge or tactic to it at all.
hmm then why is your whole party dead with 60%dp?
even if you take wrong turns shouldnt matter. Maybe you dont like it because you're not very good?
The dungeons are all very easy and really shouldnt be getting 60%dp
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Old Apr 04, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13   #28
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2% bonus + the XP from the L28 boss dying being split between only 2 group members
According to official wiki, killing a lv28 foe gives your party 232xp. That is 116 each for a party of two. Every 75xp removes 1% dp. So "2% bonus + the XP from the L28 boss dying being split between only 2 group members" here are only 3 not 6.

Well maybe the wiki was wrong.
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Old Apr 04, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31   #29
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Hey Moderators!

You guys are asleep at the wheel YET again...

This is literally the seventeenth "EotN is crap" thread that we have had (yes I counted). Not even five days ago we finally had #16 quiet down.

My question is this: what the hell do you guys do around here? You don't moderate or we'd see some /closed threads and consolidation.

Are you guys really going to let another identical bitchy thread trash this forum yet again? Really? You are???

New moderators please.
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Old Apr 04, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38   #30
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I have to agree somewhat. I am not a fan of the EotN campaign, and I know several other senior players that feel the same way. The entire campaign is just obnoxious, especially in HM. I mean, I can beat it, but I find myself just raging at some point during the quest/mission/dungeon.

It's just obnoxious. That's the only way I can describe it. KD, snare, snare, KD, interrupt, interrupt, interrupt, another KD and the whole time physicals, with huge IAS buffs, are just beating the shit out of you. It makes Carinae screaming mad.

This is not what GW is all about. Utterly and completely IMBA. It pushes the GW skill set beyond what is intended, and when you are playing with just H/H it really can be frustrating. I don't see how a 'casual' gamer could play EotN and have any enjoyment at all.

That's not to say that I can't beat it, but when I do, I don't feel satisfaction. I just feel relief that it's over. And I know I'm not the only one. This isn't the case with the other chapters in HM. All of the other chapters had tough spots, and frustrating moments, but when all is said and done, they were fun and rewarding. Not so with EotN.

If I wanted to be frustrated and get my ass kicked I'd be playing PvP. I dunno, just my thoughts.
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Old Apr 04, 2008, 04:25 AM // 04:25   #31
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I fail to see how you can consider the dungeon "easy" when you wiped your entire party, stuck at 60 DP, and you were helped with PvE-only skills and you were using consumables.
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Old Apr 04, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30   #32
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Some people's children....
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Old Apr 04, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30   #33
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According to official wiki, killing a lv28 foe gives your party 232xp. That is 116 each for a party of two. Every 75xp removes 1% dp. So "2% bonus + the XP from the L28 boss dying being split between only 2 group members" here are only 3 not 6.

Well maybe the wiki was wrong.

Boss exp is doubled.
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Old Apr 04, 2008, 04:39 AM // 04:39   #34
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Hey come on there's at least one good thing about GWEN. The water is good looking in a couple areas. If you want to see good looking virtual water for $40, buy GWEN.
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Old Apr 04, 2008, 04:49 AM // 04:49   #35
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Hey come on there's at least one good thing about GWEN. The water is good looking in a couple areas. If you want to see good looking virtual water for $40, buy GWEN.
Or buy Oblivion. Cheaper and more content.
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